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[Guide] Raid Team Builder

Discussion in 'Team Help' started by megdorkable, Dec 12, 2015.

  1. megdorkable

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    I thought that too when I summoned her recently, but if you look at her base DEF you can see why she would be immediately squished in B10, since she already has element disadvantage against the boss's attacks and would only be useful to you runed with crit r and crit d. The people I talked to in the forums pointed this out to me.
     
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    Chaosphere New Trainy

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    Talc is great for front line and with Dec buff and heal on a decent CD he's helpful. Also considering smokey (fire jack) because of debuff master race: Atk break, speed break, HP block, and glancing hit. All the essential debuffs in one mon. Just needs really good acc, def and speed. Haven't cleared R1 yet, need to build a good synergy team
     
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    I see no Lisa on your list of cleaners... I run her as my only cleanser and she owns, specially since she comes with glancing skill one, and if you get her on revenge(since she also good in necro) chance to land immediately after the jump.

    My current R5 team is Praha Frigate Front Line
    Lisa Hwa Darion Colleen Backline
     
  4. megdorkable

    megdorkable Forum Mom

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    Derp. I advised people in using Lisa. Silly me. Will add.
     
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    Hey what about these guys for raid support (turns are with skills maxed out):

    Wind Bearman (Dagorr)
    • Skill 2: 2-turn AOE attack buff; AOE 2-cleanse (3 turns)
    • Skill 3: AOE attack bar reduction 0f 20% (5 turns)

    Dark Battle Mammoth (Basalt)
    • Skill 2: AOE heal (3 turns)
    • Skill 3: AOE attack bar reduction 0f 35% (3 turns)

    Dark Magic Knight (Lanett)
    • Skill 2: 50% 2-turn HP disturb x4 (3 turns)
    • Skill 3: Attack dmg 14%+ of boss HP; AOE heal 30% of dmg (4 turns)

    Water Yeti (Kunda)
    • Skill 1: 50% speed break x2
    • Skill 3: AOE cleanse; 3-turn immunity; 30% dmg reflection (3 turns)
     
  6. megdorkable

    megdorkable Forum Mom

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    Enemy max hp skills are somewhat debuffed in raids since there is 3 heads, but 1 hp bar.
     
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    iMegaStorm New Trainy

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    Don't forget about Doma! (light penguin).

    1st attack: Charges to attack and stun the enemy for 1 turn with 20% chance,
    2nd attack: Attacks an enemy 2 times with swift charge, with each attack decreasing the attack speed and defense for 2 turns (3 turn cool down - 2 turn once maxed skilled).
    3rd attack: Remove all harmfull effects on all allies and increases the attack gauge by at least 15%. The attack gauge is increased additionally by 5% for each removed harmful effect. (4 turn cool down - 3 once maxed skilled.)

    He seem's very viable for TOA and Raids imo ^.^ not bad stats when 6* he has higher stats in def/atk/speed then Kona. Hope this helps! :)
     
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    Megdorkable, Below is my normal team for Raid stage 3 and I don't always win either. Can u suggest a better team for me to use in Raid Raid Team.PNG Team.PNG
     
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    How are your Bernard/Bella runed? Are they runed with DEF?
    Only monsters with high DEF should be placed on front line. Monsters with high HP such as Chasun, are not as good of options.
    What are your Eladriel runes as well?

    Briand, Bernard, Belladeon/Chasun/Eladriel
    Kona, Hwa/Theo/Amir, Colleen (try to rune Colleen with some damage)

    Try the different options, see what works best.
    This is assuming your Bernard and Bella have decent DEF...
    You could switch Bernard and Kona's placement if your Kona's def is higher.

    Without seeing your runes or runs, its hard to tell you exactly what to do. But let me know how this goes and get back to me.
     
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    Bernard is
    Swift Focus Spd Hp Acc Def979
    Bella is
    Vio Energy hp hp acc DEF989
    Eladriel is
    Vio Energy 1014 hp hp hp DEF1014

    My only DEF mon is Basalt with 2014 DEF Vio Guard Def CD Def
     
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    my ign is Acemachinedude if you want to have a look at my mons Meg
     
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    So I always run 2 monsters with decent DEF on my frontline - for me thats Velajuel (2120 DEF, 20726 HP) and Briand (1340DEF, 29579 HP). I will sometimes add a third depending on who I am with. My third I can choose from Bernard (1309 DEF, 23379 HP) or Talc (1094 DEF, 25825 HP). For my backline I usually use Hwa and Colleen, and depending on my frontline I can use Chasun and/or a damage dealer.

    Your team should change based on who you are paired up with. For example, I usually run a debuff team and my boyfriend runs a damage team, so he does all the damage while I keep the debuffs up. However if I wasn't going with him I might switch to a better damage team if the team comp needed it.
     
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    Heres why I suggest a DEF frontline.

    Crush of Doom:
    "Targets the frontline of the enemy and unleashes an attack that ignores all beneficial effects. The damage increases substantially as the target's Defense decreases. This attack will target the backline if there are no Monsters left in the frontline."

    That paired with the fact that your backline takes a percentage of the damage your frontline takes, means that DEF will be much more beneficial to you than HP on your frontline.

    Further Explanation:
    If you have higher DEF, your frontline will take less damage. Then when the damage for the backline is calculated, they will take a lot less damage as well. Even if your frontline has enough HP to take the hits from the boss, your backline may have some issues with taking more damage. You want to decrease the amount of damage you take as much as you can.
    The Crush of Doom skill quoted above will do more damage the lower your DEF is, ON TOP of the fact that you are already taking more damage due to your DEF being low. This is bad news bears for an HP frontline.
     
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    Hello Megdorkable,

    I was wondering if you'd be so kind as to help me with my team, All my monsters are runed but my raid team not so well, my Kona is really slow but i feel like my team lacks immunity. Was debating to build a Fadora, I did raid 4 with 29% and died a split second before :( but R4 is yolo runs for me at the moment. Any advice on how to improve would be appreciated! See my monsters below :) It seem's my front line dies first, I'm planning on re-runing my briand as I'm not happy with him or his resistance..
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    http://imgur.com/a/y6yco
     
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    Talc is incredible on front line.
     
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    Have you used Mei Hou Wang as your attacker? His passive can be very useful to you as long as you keep the oblivion off of him. AND his leader skill is fantastic.
    Konamiya is definitely a good raid monster, but does need decent speed to be useful.
    If you have Dias from HoH, you might try building him for front line, he is OP.
    I agree Talc can be good as a front liner with a DEF/HP hybrid build. However he isn't going to be a main healer with a DEF build (or an HP build really), and his provoke won't do anything for you, so hes not necessary.

    To start I would try putting
    Dias,
    Konamiya, Mei Hou Wang, Chasun(you can try different healers here, like Water AA if you 6* him)

    To add onto that frontline you could try Briand? Bernard maybe? Depending on who you have runed with the most DEF.
    You need to add some more debuffs there either to the frontline or backline.
    Colleen and Hwa are popular choices. Basalt can also work for the frontline.

    Overall, its hard to tell you more specifically without seeing your runes and previous runs. Let me know if that helped at all.
     
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    Many thanks for the list. It is really helpful.
    What's with fire desert queen Sekhmet?
     
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    I don't ever remember seeing Dias in HoH or i was too noob to get him ;D Thanks for the advice! :>
     
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    Dias isn't necessary, Briand and Fedora are also commonly used.
     
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    It's really a Helpful one , Btw it was nice :D .
    Great Work @megdorkable
     

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